Being a FORD man my self, i thought that peugeots were a load of french crap, but when i drove one i was most in pressed by the diesel engine, it is very riliable and pulls well. I think that all of the people who are having problems with there 405 just don't know how to drve properly
I paid £500 for a 91H MI-16 3 years ago with high mileage and little service history (though 5 years of MOT certs). It's now got 179,000 miles on it after having done almost 50,000 miles since 1999 and I've loved every minute of it----EXCEPT the cost of repairs. All the consumables have been replaced as well as brake pads and pipes, alternator, throttle housing, exhaust manifold, driving (fog)lights rear axle(complete), sunroof glass(mine blew out like an ejector seat canopy on a high speed jaunt down a motorway due to worn guides). The starter motor has just gone and the sunroof cable guides have rotted through so I can't use the sunroof now so these are next for replacement.
The main problem I get with the car is vandalism- deliberate scratching, etc.I've also had to replace a headlight recently due to it being smashed.
ONE thing that always impresses me though is the comments people make about the MI-16, when I take it to a garage for servicing or tyres etc, it always attracts positive comments and attention from both the the staff and their customers alike. People in the know respect and admire the MI-16 and this is purely dwn to the XU9J4(D6C) engine-the heart of the car.
I've recently been offered £1000 for my car by a mechanic who was resetting my engine computer after an AA roadside repair "mechanic" had a go at the idle speed regulator when the throttle housing mechanism was sticking. He also tuned it up on their rolling road for me free of charge. Even with the high mileage, the car is still running at 160bhp.
My advice to all you MI-16 owners out there--stick with it, it's a brilliant drivers car, it has respect and a killer rep, it's durable although it may not seem like it (I really thrash mine) and it's getting rare-you will stand out from the crowd. Get yourself a good parts supplier and a reasonbly priced mechanic you can trust. You could even do some of the more simple jobs yourself.
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU GO TO A MAIN DEALER OR A NATIONAL FRANCHISE OF GARAGES AS THEY WILL HAVE YOUR TEETH OUT. I was quoted for 10 hours labour at £45p/h and £278 for the parts for a clutch replacement, it took my mechanic 2 hours to replace it with a cltch kit I'd bought for £69 (IT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME KIT AS WOULD HAVE BEEN SUPPLIED BY THE LOCAL PUG DEALER-a Valeo O.E clutch). Total cost=£100.
OK, rant over, good luck to all you MI-16 owners out there, I'll hopefully see your cars around for many years to come.
Ive had my 405 GTX Turbo diesel for a 18 mths now after my father used it as a taxi for 5 years, it has over 250,000 miles on the clock and is still as sweet as a nut for an N reg. Parts replaced have only been the alternator, radiator and power steering rack as well as brake pads, the odd cable and normal servicing. A real workhorse and still economic - a good motorway car and handles cornish bends with ease also! Recommended to anyone.
I've recently bought a 405 Mi16 and it's one of the best cars I've ever owned! On the road it's v.quick,the handling is excellent and it turns heads coz it's not something you see everyday. I can put up with the leaks & some annoying rattles becease of the big grin I have on my face every time I turn the key!
Had 1994 1.6 glx for about a year now. Had a few infuriating problems exhaust went what seemed to be the entire braking system apart from the pedal and hanbrake lever replaced at a cost of nearly 500 pounds radiator also replaced Hate getting burnt off by 1.1 fiestas and when you do put your foot down, you have to get your wallet out. Motorway fuel economy fairly good, if you nurse it. On a brighter note, styling still pleasing to the eye despite age. (a bit like the wife, and she's costly too) But above all else handling and ride are absolutely fantastic. I shall miss this car when it eventually goes to be recyled as biscuit tins
I own a 405 diesel estate. Excellent fuel ecomonmy on long journeys 470 miles on £37 of fuel (april 02). replaced both drive shafts and Vacuum pump which looked as if it had been replaced before. You will know when this part fails as the brake pedal goes hard and you have to stand on the pedal to stop the car. Electric roof no longer works, Intermittent wiper no longer works electric windows are slow. The car is old H reg body work is fine Starts first time all the time. I accept that a car of this age and high mileage will require some work and make no complaints about the car in general. It is big,roomy and economical and I would but a later 405 in the future.
Ah the Peugeot 405!.Now there's a dark horse!.I have had my 1.6GL for about a year and a half and quite frankly am in two minds as to what I think about it.On the one hand it performs well for a car of its size and responds to power application very well.It also is quite an attractive looking car. On the other hand it is very low on head room especially if you are over six foot.It is in constant need of repairs and replacement parts (all be it minor ones but so many of them!).For example this is a list of things wrong with mine at the moment.
1.Rusted Cat which makes a horrendous racket when it warms up!.
2.The central locking remote refuses to work at all and when you use the key it binds against the motor like crazy!
3.headlamp reflectors are rusted out
4.Boot leaks and is bloody difficult to locate the leak!
And so the list goes on.A great car to drive but a nightmare to maintain!.
Yes they do handle reasonably well, though not as well as a 305. The reason they handle and go well is because it is a sub Escort/Astra sized car being marketed alongside Cavalier/Vectra/Sierra/Mondeo, so the power to weight ratio is pretty good.
I cannot agree with the rear legroom comment, I have owned a Sierra and driven several 405s (under duress) and the Sierra was considerably more spacious.
Not the worst car ever made (the mk2Cavalier just beats it) but close. Don't do it!
Reading the comments below, it confirms that Peugeots are love em or hate em motors.
Personally I love em. Especialy the 405.
Okay, so getting the oil filler cap off is very difficult, but is often a regularly needed exercise.
Okay, os starting a petrol engine which is not stone cold is a pain in the butt.
Okay, so when you put your foot down in a 1.6 it drinks petrol like it's going out of fashion.
But hey, when did you last drive a 1.6 car of this size which could effortlessly exceed 100 mph, and all the time you felt to be doing about 30?
When did a Peugeot driver last fill his pants when taking a corner too fast?
When did the rear seat passengers of a Peugeot last say, "Hey driver, there's more leg room in a sierra!"
And besides, I just feel supremely comfortable in the seating position of a 405.
Sure, the average 405 comes with a shed load fo problems, but what the heck, they're a drivers car, giving supreme comfort and supremely reliable/predictable drivability.
There's plenty enough cheap ones about to be able to buy one, then throw it away when things go wrong!
The 405 is without a doubt the worst car I have ever driven. The engines are soft and fragile, the cooling system is wholly inadequate and the electrics are very temperemental. You will notice that even those who like the car admit to cooling and engine problems. The interior is uncomfortable and flimsy. The door pockets are useless with manual windows. The boot, although it looks big, is toothbrush size. Like other Peugeots it needs a steady supply of spare parts to keep going and like other Peugeots the parts are expensive and never in stock. The XUD engine is the most over rated thing in the motoring world since the Morris Plonker. If you must buy something overpriced, uncomfortable, unreliable and impractical spend your money on an Italian sports car. At least it would be pleasant to drive.
I've just spent $6.000,00 to acquire an argentinian made 405 sri 2.0 liter. Despite the fact that it is quite difficult to find spare parts here in Brazil, I am having a very nice experience with that car. As you may know, roads in Brazil are quite bumpy; nevertheless, its suspension does its job very well. The engine is reliable, but I'm facing some cooling problems.
I've just sold my 94 GTX TD that I had for 3 years. I did 65000 miles (half of that towing in my job)it never broke down and only needed brakes and tyres. Excellent car Fast,comfortable and reliable. My replacement discovery is a monster that can't tow on a motorway for shit.
I OWN A 94 STDT. EXCEPTIONAL CAR WITH BRISK PERFORMANCE (CONSIDERING IT'S A DIESEL) RELIABILITY HAS BEEN VERY GOOD INDEED, WITH NO PROBLEM GETTING PART'S WHEN RARELY NEEDED.
I have just sold my '91 405GLDT & it really is a car that owes me nothing! I did have problems with the back axle, leaking coolant hoses, rear brake drums etc. If you never look under the bonnet of a car, don't buy one!! If, on the other hand, you don't mind spending a few pounds on preventative maintenance, then they represent excellent value for money. Watch out for the above problems as well as defective timing belt pulleys & clutch cable connection to clutch pedal (carry a spare!). Don't be put off by the faults; it really is a great drive, excellent roadholding & good economy( 46 mpg ).
HI iv'e had my MI16 4+4 for 5 years, its gray,leather trim,self leveling rear end( which has been a pain in the backside )Its got 125,000 on the clock, Eats the 225,30,17,tyers like thay are going out off fashion. But its the best car ive had , and i would,nt sell it for any price
I own an '89 Mi-16. I've had acouple of problems with it, but nothing out of the ordinary. The 16v engine is noticably more powerful than the 8v. The 0-60 is quoted at about 9 seconds (I think) and mine achieves that easily. I don't like driving it around town too much, you need to get the revs up to enjoy this car. It starts to really pull at about 2500-3000rpm and just keeps pulling past 6000rpm. Being a big bloke I need a car with plenty of room - and this car has it. Finally - don't bother with Peugeot franchises for services and repairs. Find a Peugeot specialist in the yellow pages, they're usually loads cheaper and more helpful (sorry Peugeot - but there's more to customer service than fancy pullovers and free coffee).
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